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Aug. 22nd, 2015 02:44 pm
xp_echo: Friendly (Idiot)
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You just let people muck around with dangerous machines in your basement? How have you people not been shut down by the Government yet?

Date: 2015-08-22 05:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
Take a chill pill, malyutka. There's safeguards in place. Nobody got hurt and we learned some nifty things. It's just common courtesy to let people know what was going on. You want a fish? I got an angler fish that'd spruce your room right up.

Date: 2015-08-22 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xp-echo.livejournal.com
'We learned some nifty things'...

You're the type of person who sees an industrial accident and thinks 'That's some cool purple bubbling liquid - really like how it sets off the burning tires', aren't you?

How did you manage to reach adulthood?

Date: 2015-08-22 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
Nah, more like, "Well shit, their safety precautions were obviously sub par, gotta work on that. Also, what is that purple goo made of and how detrimental is it to everything it's currently touching? QUARANTINE NOW."

How're you planning to reach adulthood? PSA: You'll be happier and less likely to get crapped on if you don't assume the worst of everyone all the time.

Date: 2015-08-22 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xp-echo.livejournal.com
You sound like my Grandfather - he always tells me that Sweet Medicine would want us to be peaceful and believe in people.

Date: 2015-08-22 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
I dunno about Sweet Medicine, but yeah. Generally, it's better if you're ready for awesomeness rather than awfulness, right. You get what you give and all that karmic stuff.

Date: 2015-08-22 06:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xp-echo.livejournal.com
He was a great man from long ago. Here, quick google digest: http://archive.adl.org/education/curriculum_connections/cheyenne_way.html

It's a good way, but a hard one. I'm not very good at it.

Date: 2015-08-22 06:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
Huh, cool. Thanks for the link.

You're a teenager. I don't think any teenager ever is good at not being surly. But it'll even out eventually.

Date: 2015-08-22 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xp-echo.livejournal.com
I may have a few teeny tiny anger issues. It seems that people find that a little off-putting. Can't imagine why.

Date: 2015-08-22 06:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
Eh. It is what it is. Like I said, it'll even out. At least you're not running around the city in a ski mask trying to beat up muggers like some people I could name. (I'm rolling my eyes right now, in case you were wondering.)

Date: 2015-08-22 06:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xp-echo.livejournal.com
Aren't the muggers usually the ones wearing the ski masks?

Date: 2015-08-22 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
Not necessarily. I mean, if you're fifteen and dead set on being a vigilante, y'know. Best to make sure people can't ID you.

Date: 2015-08-22 07:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xp-echo.livejournal.com
Isn't that better handled by non-fifteen year olds? Also - who makes that their go to for extra-curriculas? 'You can choose prom counsel or possibly dying of gunshot wounds - which do you want?' 'I'll take the gunshot wounds, Sir!'

Date: 2015-08-22 07:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
Just a shot in the dark, here, but I'm gonna go with kids who, for whatever reason, want to make a difference and figure prom counsel's not good enough. I'm not endorsing it. I'm not exactly knocking it, either. Just the ski mask getup.

Date: 2015-08-22 08:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xp-echo.livejournal.com
It's a pretty small help, and the people you're beating on may be just as much victims of circumstance as the people they're victimizing.

Better to work on root causes then beat up people in dark corners.

Especially when beating some schlub does nothing about the cycle of violence except continue it.

Besides - I've seen too many 'good ol boys' who thought they were on the side of the righteous beating on some poor POC kid and calling it justice.

Date: 2015-08-22 08:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
You're thinking small time, which is fine. It's what you know so far. But sometimes it's not so bad, having somebody who'll step in when a person's being mugged or dragged into an alley to be raped.

That person might only be able to do that when they're fifteen. But they grow up. And if they're not dead, they might do something really worthwhile. Like stop a megalomaniac from destroying New York City.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's better to have someone willing to do something than no one willing to do anything.

Date: 2015-08-22 08:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xp-echo.livejournal.com
Did you honestly just do the text equivalent of pat me on the head and tell me I'd understand when I'm older?

Look, people like Martin Luther King, those are the people who make a difference.

You want to stop people getting raped? Teach people not to rape and change the system that lets reporting of rape almost as bad as the rape itself.

Create programs that help people out of poverty so a life as a petty criminal seems stupid by comparison.

Make that feathered bastard spend some of his millions on helping people rather then flashing it at kids and pretending he's doing anything but being an asshole.

You people have so much damn money and all you do is hide and maybe help one or two people when you feel like it, if it doesn't break your manicure.

Give me a break.

Date: 2015-08-22 08:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
No, I didn't. And I think everything you said is fantastic. The problem is, say you're from somewhere like Hell's Kitchen. You don't have the chance or the opportunity to do any of that stuff. Ideals are great, goals are awesome. But you're fifteen and you're living in a shack of an apartment, what do you do when you see someone getting beat up? Wait around for somebody with money to show up and set up some program so that hopefully people will learn that bad things are bad and not do them anymore?

No, you strap on a stupid ski mask and you go out your window and, since you're able to do things nobody expects you to be able to do, you stop the guy doing the mugging or the raping or the kidnapping and you tie him up and you drop him in front of the police station with a note.

Grand plans and sweeping cultural change are all well and good. If you can get something going, more power to you. But it's gotta start somewhere.

Thing is, you can come at anybody here and try to bash them over the head with your speeches and righteous indignation, but the truth of the matter winds up being that you don't know any of us well enough to make the kinds of generalizations you're making.

Is Warren an asshole? Yeah, sometimes. But that's not all he is. You can google him to find out what the gossip rags say he's done, but unless you stop mouthing off long enough to actually ask him about some of the other stuff, you don't have any room to say the things you're saying. You just make yourself sound close minded and kind of hypocritical.

Date: 2015-08-22 09:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xp-echo.livejournal.com
Whatever you say, Clint.

Date: 2015-08-22 09:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
Oh, a text brush off. Nicely played, Maya.

Date: 2015-08-22 09:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xp-echo.livejournal.com
I'm so glad you approve.

Date: 2015-08-22 09:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
Are you really? Cause that's totally not the vibe I'm getting.

Date: 2015-08-22 09:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-hawkeye.livejournal.com
Hands down, absolutely, no questions asked, in a heartbeat. Yes.

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Date: 2015-08-22 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-dagger.livejournal.com

Usually things they tinker with don't do that. However we are mutants and strange things are attracted to us. But I believe Clint said it best, there are measures installed  to protect everyone. Sometimes idiots get through.

Date: 2015-08-23 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xp-echo.livejournal.com
Seems to me it has less to do with being mutants and more to do with being dumbasses who play with things they little understand.

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