Really?

[xp_echo]

You just let people muck around with dangerous machines in your basement? How have you people not been shut down by the Government yet?

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[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

Eh. It is what it is. Like I said, it'll even out. At least you're not running around the city in a ski mask trying to beat up muggers like some people I could name. (I'm rolling my eyes right now, in case you were wondering.)

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

Aren't the muggers usually the ones wearing the ski masks?

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

Not necessarily. I mean, if you're fifteen and dead set on being a vigilante, y'know. Best to make sure people can't ID you.

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

Isn't that better handled by non-fifteen year olds? Also - who makes that their go to for extra-curriculas? 'You can choose prom counsel or possibly dying of gunshot wounds - which do you want?' 'I'll take the gunshot wounds, Sir!'

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

Just a shot in the dark, here, but I'm gonna go with kids who, for whatever reason, want to make a difference and figure prom counsel's not good enough. I'm not endorsing it. I'm not exactly knocking it, either. Just the ski mask getup.

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

It's a pretty small help, and the people you're beating on may be just as much victims of circumstance as the people they're victimizing.

Better to work on root causes then beat up people in dark corners.

Especially when beating some schlub does nothing about the cycle of violence except continue it.

Besides - I've seen too many 'good ol boys' who thought they were on the side of the righteous beating on some poor POC kid and calling it justice.

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

You're thinking small time, which is fine. It's what you know so far. But sometimes it's not so bad, having somebody who'll step in when a person's being mugged or dragged into an alley to be raped.

That person might only be able to do that when they're fifteen. But they grow up. And if they're not dead, they might do something really worthwhile. Like stop a megalomaniac from destroying New York City.

I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's better to have someone willing to do something than no one willing to do anything.

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

Did you honestly just do the text equivalent of pat me on the head and tell me I'd understand when I'm older?

Look, people like Martin Luther King, those are the people who make a difference.

You want to stop people getting raped? Teach people not to rape and change the system that lets reporting of rape almost as bad as the rape itself.

Create programs that help people out of poverty so a life as a petty criminal seems stupid by comparison.

Make that feathered bastard spend some of his millions on helping people rather then flashing it at kids and pretending he's doing anything but being an asshole.

You people have so much damn money and all you do is hide and maybe help one or two people when you feel like it, if it doesn't break your manicure.

Give me a break.

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

No, I didn't. And I think everything you said is fantastic. The problem is, say you're from somewhere like Hell's Kitchen. You don't have the chance or the opportunity to do any of that stuff. Ideals are great, goals are awesome. But you're fifteen and you're living in a shack of an apartment, what do you do when you see someone getting beat up? Wait around for somebody with money to show up and set up some program so that hopefully people will learn that bad things are bad and not do them anymore?

No, you strap on a stupid ski mask and you go out your window and, since you're able to do things nobody expects you to be able to do, you stop the guy doing the mugging or the raping or the kidnapping and you tie him up and you drop him in front of the police station with a note.

Grand plans and sweeping cultural change are all well and good. If you can get something going, more power to you. But it's gotta start somewhere.

Thing is, you can come at anybody here and try to bash them over the head with your speeches and righteous indignation, but the truth of the matter winds up being that you don't know any of us well enough to make the kinds of generalizations you're making.

Is Warren an asshole? Yeah, sometimes. But that's not all he is. You can google him to find out what the gossip rags say he's done, but unless you stop mouthing off long enough to actually ask him about some of the other stuff, you don't have any room to say the things you're saying. You just make yourself sound close minded and kind of hypocritical.

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

Whatever you say, Clint.

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

Oh, a text brush off. Nicely played, Maya.

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

I'm so glad you approve.

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

Are you really? Cause that's totally not the vibe I'm getting.

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

Would I lie to you?

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

Hands down, absolutely, no questions asked, in a heartbeat. Yes.

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

But would you believe it?

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

Not in a million years, absolutely not, negatory, nope, nada. No.

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

See what I mean?

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

Wait, were you asking if I'd believe you if you lied to me? Because that is no.

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

Such distrust.

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

Well, you're kind of snarky and sarcastic, I sort of assume everything is a lie until proven different with some kind of sincerity or... something. I don't even know what I'm talking about anymore.

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

I win.

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

I refuse to capitulate!

[xp-echo.livejournal.com]

It's okay, we'll get you a fuzzy old man blanket and a rocking chair to sit in.

[x-hawkeye.livejournal.com]

Get off my lawn!