I need help

[xp_echo]

I need weapons that are non-lethal. Something I can knock people out with even if they have a healing factor that isn't going to kill them.

Discuss.

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[xp_cypher]

Well, I am a fan of telescoping batons, because they're compact and portable.

[xp_echo]

That's not bad, but the healing factor and other brutes need more than just a beating. Nice as those could be as a backup for the less nasty. It'd be easy if I wanted to kill someone but non-lethal needs to be a big thing. I don't want to kill anyone by accident ever again, and this last shit show means I'm not as effective as I could be.

[xp_artie]

I'm with Doug. Extendable batons and go for hands, fingers, knees and elbows. They're fragile.

Avoid throats and heads - too easy to kill someone by accident and I'm sure you'd prefer to avoid lasting brain damage.

Can't go wrong with stabbing the healing types, especially if you go for major organs or leave the blades in.

Most people won't die if you shoot them in the leg.

Honestly, though, go into fights with the understanding that, no matter what you want, there's a good chance you will have to kill the other guy to survive.

[xp_cypher]

You can use them for joint locks and holds just as easily as striking.

[xp_wildchild]

No they really don't. Yeah I might get up faster from a broken fucking knee than you but it still gives you time to get away and regroup. I'm putting you on extra sparring and DR duty if you think so. We'll work on joints and Ear/nose/throat attacks.

shit I have really slacked the fuck off on your h2h training, fuck. I'm putting you through the same program Gar put me through, it'll suck but if you can't hold your own by the end of it I don't deserve my damn career.

[xp_echo]

I'm here for that. I've been working a bit with Matt as well. Can we work him in? He's got some stuff with the blindness that's been helpful to copy

[xp_wildchild]

not for this not yet, we gotta get you back on basics first.

also MM and I gotta different sparring schedule

[xp_artie]

Okay, Kyle is good - like, hella good at what he does - but he has like two feet of height and 250 pounds on you and fights like he'll be able to heal from what happens.

You also need to be working with someone who is small, because we can't fight the way he does and no matter how well he trains you, some of that bias is going to come through. (No offence.)

Talk to me, to Doug, to Natasha, to Felica or someone. People with powers that don't lead to fighting and no physical advantages.

[xp_wildchild]

I love that in your head Maya is 4'4" and 17 pounds.

(artie's right, you need to spar people with different sizes, ima just ALSO put you through the shit Gar put me through)

[xp_artie]

I mean, more, you're about seven foot nine or something, not that she's (literally) pocket sized any more.

But also, you fight like a man who fundamentally believes that fingers regrow.

[xp_wildchild]

I mean kinda. Gar put me through a bunch of shit where if I got hurt he'd make me do shitty boring cardio I hated so Kiiiiiiinda but also yeah, you're not wrong there's only so much negative reinforcement you can do.

but Maya still needs to learn how to fight guys like me.

(I mean I assume you can fight a guy like me but you're like. I just assume you'd shoot me in the face)

[xp_artie]

I'd shoot you in the face from a long, long way away, yes. and then probably in the knees or something.

Good point, though. He did make you do all of that, I just know what powers based biases are like. You can;t outtrain them.

[xp_echo]

Artie, I’m 5’9” and 125lbs. I know that adults see us the same as when we actually arrive in their sight the first time but I’m not short or small.

[xp_wildchild]

Wait you're not 16 and five two and signing "fuck you white boy" at me every time we're in the same space?

THE PASSAGE OF TIME IS A WONDEROUS AND TERRIBLE THING.

[xp_artie]

you are standing next to kyle

[xp_echo]

Yeah, but he’s the reason people still believe in Big Foot